<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#333333">Thanks Bill and Carlos. You have explained it so succinctly. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/sivasubramanian.muthusamy" target="_blank">Sivasubramanian M</a><div><br></div><div><br><br></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 7:23 PM, Bill Woodcock <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:woody@pch.net" target="_blank">woody@pch.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Other fora don't have a 150-year-old secretariat with a declining budget, full of bureaucrats desperate to see that budget not hit zero before their retirement accounts are fully funded. </div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br> <div> -Bill</div><div><br></div></div></font></span><div><div class="h5"><div><br>On Oct 27, 2014, at 22:51, "Carlos Raúl G." <<a href="mailto:crg@isoc-cr.org" target="_blank">crg@isoc-cr.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>I ask myself the same question: how different for Governments is the ITU forum from other Fora where they seems perfectly happy with the bottom up MS model?<br><br>Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez<div><a href="tel:%2B506%208335%202487" value="+50683352487" target="_blank">+506 8335 2487</a></div><div>Enviado desde mi iPhone</div></div><div><br>El 27/10/2014, a las 7:33, Sivasubramanian M <<a href="mailto:isolatedn@gmail.com" target="_blank">isolatedn@gmail.com</a>> escribió:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#333333">I am curious to know why Brazil is on the side of Russia, despite embracing the multi-stakeholder model, demonstrated recently by Dilma Roussef's support for NetMundial and despite the proven success of <a href="http://nic.br" target="_blank">nic.br</a>'s multi-stakeholder model, despite the benevolent influence of Brazilian Community Leaders like Harmut Glaser. What caused Brazil to be part of IBSA and why is it on the wrong side?</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#333333"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/sivasubramanian.muthusamy" target="_blank">Sivasubramanian M</a><div><br></div><div><br><br></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Bill Woodcock <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:woody@pch.net" target="_blank">woody@pch.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>> On Oct 26, 2014, at 4:43 PM, Adam <<a href="mailto:ajp@glocom.ac.jp" target="_blank">ajp@glocom.ac.jp</a>> wrote:<br>
</span><span>> Is Saudi speaking for a large block of countries?<br>
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</span>In so far as lines are drawn, here’s what I’ve observed this evening:<br>
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On one side:<br>
The Internets<br>
United Kingdom<br>
Bulgaria<br>
Japan<br>
Canada<br>
USA<br>
Australia<br>
Ghana<br>
Nigeria<br>
New Zealand<br>
Grenada<br>
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On the other side:<br>
Saudi Arabia<br>
Argentina<br>
Brazil<br>
Paraguay<br>
Oman<br>
Russia<br>
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Wildcard:<br>
India<br>
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Helpful grammar authoritarians, who are striving to make evil documents at least marginally intelligible:<br>
Bulgaria<br>
Sweden<br>
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Meeting concluded with an admonishment by the chair to Saudi Arabia to consider limiting its contributions to ones which “reflect present reality.”<br>
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The Internet-issues ad-hoc reconvenes at 18:00 on Wednesday, unless the secretariat is able to find an earlier time.<br>
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Fact-checking the idiocy that’s spouted in this room is surprisingly difficult, given 85% packet loss getting out of the building. One could be cynical about that, but I’ll resist the urge.<br>
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-Bill<br>
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