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--></style></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Marilyn; agree this would indeed be useful; these Principles, which I think still have real relevance, are clearly not being upheld by all who signed up to them; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Best<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Nigel <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><discuss-bounces@1net.org> on behalf of Marilyn Cade <marilynscade@hotmail.com><br><b>Date: </b>Monday, 4 February 2019 at 00:03<br><b>To: </b>Erika Mann <erika@erikamann.com>, Patrick Ryan <pryan@pryan.net><br><b>Cc: </b>"discuss@1net.org" <discuss@1net.org><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [discuss] [Ext] Re: a question prompted by the list-admin email<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>So, let's create a useful topic. Here is one from me.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I am very interested in a NETMUNDIAL + review, perhaps as a main session at IGF2019, or a 3 hour Day Zero event, or a +Day if necessary to the IGF2019. I favor a 3 -4 hour special session during the IGF2019. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>-how have the principles been adopted?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>-how to they apply to the latest calls to action by French Prez and UN SecGen?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>-are they still currently applicable?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></div><div id=divRplyFwdMsg><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='color:black'> discuss-bounces@1net.org <discuss-bounces@1net.org> on behalf of Erika Mann <erika@erikamann.com><br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, February 3, 2019 6:58 PM<br><b>To:</b> Patrick Ryan<br><b>Cc:</b> discuss@1net.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [discuss] [Ext] Re: a question prompted by the list-admin email</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Patrick, hi - Maybe we're the last survivors of this group. Wishing you a fabulous new year too! Erika<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 12:51 AM Patrick Ryan <<a href="mailto:pryan@pryan.net">pryan@pryan.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi everyone. I have a proud accomplishment to announce: I'm happy to be the first to welcome everyone to the <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttp-253A-252F-252F1net.org-26data-3D02-257C01-257C-257C423653e0811c48027c9808d68a339620-257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa-257C1-257C0-257C636848351494166275-26sdata-3DZxQxl2Oyp-252BT4KKoOmsjFNSg3HQ0MFM38IAXdqcS-252BBJA-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMFAw&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=RrrXyaBfa00GH1liTedM3FwobVakuhJ-qs1N8-Ji8VE&m=iOt9i1_Zqa18bA7Kc5lpHsOOpwYk-UpXi4DAlrW-uRc&s=uS84Ye5U4-i4kiFx6pe49vWXw3ZMyUVlzjT0EUeA5kI&e=" target="_blank">1net.org [eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com]</a> listserv discussion of 2019. Not that there will be much more excitement than 2018. I'm frankly not sanguine that there's going to be a breakout of discussion, but I just-can't-remove-myself-from-the-list. Who has two thumbs and fomo? This guy here. :) <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>For nostalgic benefit, here's the first email that I have in my inbox from <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttp-253A-252F-252F1net.org-26data-3D02-257C01-257C-257C423653e0811c48027c9808d68a339620-257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa-257C1-257C0-257C636848351494166275-26sdata-3DZxQxl2Oyp-252BT4KKoOmsjFNSg3HQ0MFM38IAXdqcS-252BBJA-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMFAw&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=RrrXyaBfa00GH1liTedM3FwobVakuhJ-qs1N8-Ji8VE&m=iOt9i1_Zqa18bA7Kc5lpHsOOpwYk-UpXi4DAlrW-uRc&s=uS84Ye5U4-i4kiFx6pe49vWXw3ZMyUVlzjT0EUeA5kI&e=" target="_blank">1net.org [eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com]</a>. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Happy 2019 to fellow 1net lurkers. :)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Patrick<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: <strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Jordan Carter</span></strong> <<a href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz" target="_blank">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a>><br>Date: Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 8:14 PM<br>Subject: Re: [discuss] happening right now<br>To: <<a href="mailto:veni@veni.com" target="_blank">veni@veni.com</a>><br>Cc: <<a href="mailto:discuss@1net.org" target="_blank">discuss@1net.org</a>><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Indeed it is. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I am intrigued by Fadi's combination of accountability mechanisms with the duty of stewardship - the latter is far broader with the former, in my opinion.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I am also surprised by the presentation of this as a "consultation" process. The USG press release asks ICANN to "convene global stakeholders to develop a proposal to transition the current role played by NTIA in the coordination of the Internet's domain name system."<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>To arrogate the leadership of that to ICANN such that it consults the community rather than doing what is asked seems to me to pose risks both to ICANN itself, and to the prospects of a successful transition plan actually being developed.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Let's see how this panel proceeds..<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Jordan<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 24 March 2014 11:08, Veni Markovski <<a href="mailto:veni@veni.com" target="_blank">veni@veni.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><br><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttp-253A-252F-252Fsingapore49.icann.org-252Fen-252Fschedule-252Fmon-2Diana-2Daccountability-26data-3D02-257C01-257C-257C423653e0811c48027c9808d68a339620-257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa-257C1-257C0-257C636848351494176287-26sdata-3DC-252B0upNwlpmm6Cppwy-252B0KKEfdBsABEX2Qb2jMjX3eLjQ-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMFAw&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=RrrXyaBfa00GH1liTedM3FwobVakuhJ-qs1N8-Ji8VE&m=iOt9i1_Zqa18bA7Kc5lpHsOOpwYk-UpXi4DAlrW-uRc&s=jCVxLjtjqboENBBuFg3a0MRQYstBNcZuYa9q4F6jjlA&e=" target="_blank">http://singapore49.icann.org/en/schedule/mon-iana-accountability [eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com]</a><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><h1>IANA Accountability Transition<o:p></o:p></h1></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Date: <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Mon, 24 March 2014 - 10:30 to 12:30 SGT<br>Room: Padang<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Session Leader(s): <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttp-253A-252F-252Fsingapore49.icann.org-252Fen-252Fschedule-252Fleader-252Fchehade-2Dfadi-26data-3D02-257C01-257C-257C423653e0811c48027c9808d68a339620-257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa-257C1-257C0-257C636848351494176287-26sdata-3DoEVta7pB678sSb8VS-252F9ms9jSyjV6hzPc7kQo8bE5nS4-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMFAw&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=RrrXyaBfa00GH1liTedM3FwobVakuhJ-qs1N8-Ji8VE&m=iOt9i1_Zqa18bA7Kc5lpHsOOpwYk-UpXi4DAlrW-uRc&s=K7RcPcrSk4mZoRHJ7ukIO31TPZoy-GDqdia9sHSypVk&e=" target="_blank">Fadi Chehadé [eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com]</a> | President and CEO<br><br><br>Later today - <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttp-253A-252F-252Fsingapore49.icann.org-252Fen-252Fschedule-252Fmon-2Dicann-2Daccountability-26data-3D02-257C01-257C-257C423653e0811c48027c9808d68a339620-257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa-257C1-257C0-257C636848351494186291-26sdata-3DQ51Yfn9dZo2iMsZmJoN6EkRqZBv8VdDpj8z3O0GOr-252B4-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMFAw&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=RrrXyaBfa00GH1liTedM3FwobVakuhJ-qs1N8-Ji8VE&m=iOt9i1_Zqa18bA7Kc5lpHsOOpwYk-UpXi4DAlrW-uRc&s=D0LFeNw7b5eIw2C3skK1zKthx0Jii1nFJHpjkpQqhIE&e=" target="_blank">http://singapore49.icann.org/en/schedule/mon-icann-accountability [eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com]</a> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><h1>ICANN Accountability<o:p></o:p></h1></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Date: <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Mon, 24 March 2014 - 17:30 to 19:00 SGT<br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br>_______________________________________________<br>discuss mailing list<br><a href="mailto:discuss@1net.org" target="_blank">discuss@1net.org</a><br><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttp-253A-252F-252F1net-2Dmail.1net.org-252Fmailman-252Flistinfo-252Fdiscuss-26data-3D02-257C01-257C-257C423653e0811c48027c9808d68a339620-257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa-257C1-257C0-257C636848351494196300-26sdata-3DAUUaiORb4ISFkURDMbrrpNN3i6zio3EGten5XRa1TDc-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMFAw&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=RrrXyaBfa00GH1liTedM3FwobVakuhJ-qs1N8-Ji8VE&m=iOt9i1_Zqa18bA7Kc5lpHsOOpwYk-UpXi4DAlrW-uRc&s=yHhHmm6LtfTRMZpd3IxpfHg-BJfvlecUQfJzaqHIuQ0&e=" target="_blank">http://1net-mail.1net.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss [eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com]</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Jordan Carter<br><br>Chief Executive <br><b>InternetNZ</b><br><br>04 495 2118 (office) | +64 21 442 649 (mob)<br><a href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz" target="_blank">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a> <br>Skype: jordancarter<br><br><i>To promote the Internet's benefits and uses, and protect its potential.</i><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>discuss mailing list<br><a href="mailto:discuss@1net.org" target="_blank">discuss@1net.org</a><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttp-253A-252F-252F1net-2Dmail.1net.org-252Fmailman-252Flistinfo-252Fdiscuss-26data-3D02-257C01-257C-257C423653e0811c48027c9808d68a339620-257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa-257C1-257C0-257C636848351494196300-26sdata-3DAUUaiORb4ISFkURDMbrrpNN3i6zio3EGten5XRa1TDc-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMFAw&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=RrrXyaBfa00GH1liTedM3FwobVakuhJ-qs1N8-Ji8VE&m=iOt9i1_Zqa18bA7Kc5lpHsOOpwYk-UpXi4DAlrW-uRc&s=yHhHmm6LtfTRMZpd3IxpfHg-BJfvlecUQfJzaqHIuQ0&e=" target="_blank">http://1net-mail.1net.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss [eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com]</a> <br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>discuss mailing list<br><a href="mailto:discuss@1net.org" target="_blank">discuss@1net.org</a><br><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttp-253A-252F-252F1net-2Dmail.1net.org-252Fmailman-252Flistinfo-252Fdiscuss-26data-3D02-257C01-257C-257C423653e0811c48027c9808d68a339620-257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa-257C1-257C0-257C636848351494206308-26sdata-3DH4Lan0zj4iqk1nIuqrIoKdIA6tU8fbsGHaqQsgj-252B79M-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMFAw&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=RrrXyaBfa00GH1liTedM3FwobVakuhJ-qs1N8-Ji8VE&m=iOt9i1_Zqa18bA7Kc5lpHsOOpwYk-UpXi4DAlrW-uRc&s=OouRjCBR4wP9ixe8AE_6nnXvtLxAH3gLD4rVw2gGj8Q&e=" target="_blank">http://1net-mail.1net.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss [eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com]</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></div></div></body></html>