[discuss] FW: [I-coordination] on "identifying principles"

[Fouad Bajwa]

I believe a simpler MS charter the better. 1Net won't be constructing
a completely new MSG model, it complements it. In fact, I'd like to
see more of an Internet Rights Charter.

On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 8:49 AM, michael gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com> wrote:
> From: michael gurstein [mailto:gurstein at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 10:45 AM
> To: 'I-coordination at nro.net'; governance at lists.igcaucus.org; bestbits
> Subject: RE: [I-coordination] on "identifying principles"
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> Carolina and all,
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> I am attaching a “Declaration of Principles” from the Community Informatics
> community “An Internet for the Common Good: Engagement, Empowerment, and
> Justice for All”.
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> An earlier version of this was accepted by consensus by the larger Community
> Informatics community (consisting of both the general email list and
> specialized lists for Canada, Southern Africa, Older Persons, and Indigenous
> peoples as well as the Editorial Board of the Journal of Community
> Informatics). The current version was produced by a team that included a
> leading ICT practitioner from Mozambique, a Director of a grassroots
> Community Informatics initiative in India working with rural women, a
> practitioner working with marginalized youth in the barrios of Chicago, a
> leading researcher in the use of ICTs by Indigenous Peoples, a former chair
> of the Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility and two members of
> the technical community with interests in the community based use of ICTs.
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> We expect a consensus agreement on this version within the next 48 hours
> along with endorsements.
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> While there is some overlap with the principles that you have documented
> from other sources we would ask that those that have not elsewhere been
> identified be added to your listings and including matters of how addressing
> matters concerning the distribution of benefits of the use ICTs and the
> Internet.
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> With best wishes,
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> Mike
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> From: i-coordination-bounces at nro.net [mailto:i-coordination-bounces at nro.net]
> On Behalf Of Carolina Rossini
> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 1:28 AM
> To: Nick Ashton-Hart
> Cc: I-coordination at nro.net
> Subject: [I-coordination] on "identifying principles"
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> here I attach some work that can serve as a background regarding the piece
> of debate around principles (see Bill and Nick below)
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> we classified everything out there we could find from every stakeholder
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> they are in different docs to make it easier to print
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> C
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> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Nick Ashton-Hart <nashton at ccianet.org>
> wrote:
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> To Bill’s point in the first instance it would be useful to identify those
> principles that exist to date and their source and scope. Perhaps 1net could
> host a wiki environment or the like where those with knowledge of one or
> more could get a list together?
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> On 17 Dec 2013, at 18:34, William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch> wrote:
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> Hi George
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> On Dec 17, 2013, at 6:24 PM, George Sadowsky <george.sadowsky at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> Bill,
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> You say: "Do we really have nothing more important to be doing here at this
> point than redefining the wheel as just a round thingy?  I thought this list
> was supposed to be for coordination of multistakeholder dialogue on Sao
> Paulo and beyond, but it seems to alternate between being a troll paradise
> and the site of a lot of meandering debates on points that are generally
> being addressed more systematically elsewhere.  Or am I alone in this
> perception?"
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> I agree that we need to address points systematically.  Can you provide a
> list of systematic points (dare we call them issues?) that it would, in your
> view, be useful to discuss?
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> Well, why not start with the question of principles?  The initiators of the
> SP meeting have been saying from the outset they’d like to have a sort of
> multistakeholder declaration of principles.  Presumably it’d be helpful if
> 1net participants were to provide some input on this, and presumably we’d
> like it to be more than just nice fluffy words.  Why not discuss the range
> of options to make this a useful exercise, and see where there’s
> cross-stakeholder consensus and where there’s not?  It’s something concrete
> that needs to be done, and they want input by 1 March.
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> Cheers
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>
> Bill
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> Carolina Rossini
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> Open Technology Institute
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> New America Foundation
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