[discuss] Academic sector appointments to the 1net steering committee

Seun Ojedeji seun.ojedeji at gmail.com
Mon Dec 23 21:52:13 UTC 2013

Hello Mawaki,

I was about responding to Milton before seeing your mail. I am definitely
not disputing Giganet(Milton) effort as i am actually not in any position
to rate their effort since i only know Giganet from a distance. I have not
also in any way say that "africa community" be vaguely put on a list of

What i am however disputing is the timing that this is happening (after
release of the nominee) and the initial approach used to source the
nominees; if people are not aware (how will they participate).
Nevertheless, i will communicate this to some of the education networks
that i know (although i just checked the giganet site and can't seem to
find any open call for nominee?).

Ultimately, I guess we are all looking for what brings value to 1net amidst
the realities of individual understanding of what is at stake for them.

On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 9:54 PM, Mawaki Chango <kichango at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Seun,
> I had spent sometime around Giganet in recent past and I know about Milton
> and his activities in this domain, so I am allowing myself to say I find
> parts of your latest message quite unfair. I appreciate Milton offering to
> consider any name of a suitable candidate from Africa but not even member
> of Giganet anyone might want to put forward.
You mentioned collective entities a lot: Africa, Africa community, Research
> education networks, etc. but what is needed here most directly is an
> individual's name, or two (yes from Africa but) nobody can put 'Africa
> community' on a list of candidates! So if you know of a suitable candidate
> or those Research/education networks you mentioned that could have provided
> candidates, I'd suggest you take the message to them and ask them to do so.
> It is no one particular's issue to go around looking for stakeholders that
> are not involved in this space or aware of this process at this point in
> time; it is incumbent upon any one and all of us to so, if we are so
> inclined.

> Milton made it clear from the get go that he was speaking for Giganet and
> that Giganet was going to provide candidates from academic affiliation,
> which they did. It's a pity there was no volunteer from Africa, but still
> there is the possibility to propose a name from outside Giganet and it's up
> to anyone who's willing to do so to go ahead and do that.
> From what I know and understood from the exchange, what was meant is that
> the academic types often are reluctant spending time on academically
> unproductive stuff... things that do not advance their research,
> scholarship. That was in fact to explain why within Giganet they didn't get
> that many volunteers. Again, nothing to do with presuming Africa unable to
> handle this or that. In fact, while we further need a lot of capacity
> building in Africa, I don't think we're still at that point where anyone
> (even the most ignorant person about Africa  among us in this space) would
> think the whole continent lacks of capacity to field a candidate for the
> kind of work the /1net  SC is supposed to do. I wonder if you are not
> yourself unwittingly underestimating Africa (my turn to talk collective,)
> at least by the implications of your line of arguments. For apart from the
> names you mentioned, there were other early African players in the IG space
> who have chosen to retire from it (so you might not know them) such as
> Prof. Clement Dzidonou of Ghana and others from Senegal (am forgetting the
> names) and I'm sure from a number of other countries.
> It would be helpful that any candidate at this point be fairly familiar
> with aspects of IG and with the actors, given the nature of the decisions
> they will be participating in (unless they take time to go to other people
> to enquire and inform their decision every time.) I see you're affiliated
> to a university. If your profile is academic (as opposed to, say, IT
> support service at the university), I would encourage you to be candidate
> on the Giganet list and I'd be happy to support your candidacy.
> Cheers!
> Mawaki
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> On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>wrote:
>> On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu>wrote:
>>>  Seun:
>>> No Giganet member from Africa volunteered for the task. I suspect no one
>>> from Giganet (certainly not me) would object if a suitable academic
>>> candidate from Africa, not a member of Giganet, surfaced and asked to be
>>> considered. Suitability, I would insist, involves more than simply being
>>> from Africa however. They have to know what is going on, be reasonably
>>> familiar with the network of people involved in IG, aware of the diverse
>>> positions.
>> This is the point and where we may always have some lapses. What is it
>> that is going on that you think the Africa community may not know. Even if
>> there are some experience that Africa does not have, shouldn’t that be the
>> expected, afterall Africa is the most recent continent that got exposed to
>> Internet so yes there may be some learning to do, however it does not mean
>> there ain't knowledge that can be contributed otherwise Nii will not be
>> recognised by ICANN, Nnenna will not be spotted by web foundation, and even
>> the current leader(administrative)  of 1net (Adiel) will not be assigned
>> this role.
>>>  So if you or anyone has specific recommendations to make, and that
>>> person(s) wants to be considered, I’d be happy to take this back to the
>>> GigaNet steering committee for modification. Unlike our friends in the ICC,
>>> we’re not too proud to make improvements in our work.
>> Was the call for volunteer shared with the academic communities in Africa
>> OR just within Giganet?. I believe there are Academias who will definitely
>> be interested and willing to serve if they are aware of this early enough
>> and if they understood the nominating process. However, I am still
>> wondering the role of GigaNet steering committee in this selection
>> process....
>>>  Regarding volunteering, we made a point of noting that this 1net
>>> coordinating committee was not going to be a cute little feather one can
>>> put in one’s resume, but was going to be a lot of work that would not be
>>> related to the things academics specialize in: substantive proposals,
>>> scholarship, research or teaching; it would, instead, be a lot of email
>>> traffic and tedious reviewing of candidates for other positions that the
>>> 1net group will appoint and a lot of struggling and discussions to reach
>>> consensus among a large group. Possibly the low number of volunteers
>>> reflected a realistic attitude toward the nature of the committee.
>> Again this is not rocket science and if those on the list have flesh and
>> blood then anyone who is willing from any part of the continent can do
>> this. I don't want to think you are insinuating Africa will not be able to
>> catch up because of the traffic demands? that should be the least of the
>> reason and infact no reason at all. Yes Africa is still lagging behind with
>> other part continents in relation to bandwidth, however its not as bad as
>> not been able to handle non-relatime communications. There will ofcourse be
>> low response if the information does not get to the right community list,
>> its not an indication of access to Internet.
>>>  As for why Giganet, I would say, what other academic organization is
>>> focused on Internet governance, is aware of what is happening, and is ready
>>> to respond to the need in the time frame required? I doubt you can find
>>> any.
>> Just because Giganet is based on IG does not mean that it be used as an
>> umbrella for all especially as it does not have its representation in most
>> of the continent(Definitely not Africa). Also noting says that it must be
>> an IG based organisation that provides nominees. There are research
>> education networks which are continental based that can do the same and if
>> an IG based organisation must do the presentation then it should be an
>> organisation that has connection with relevant sectors. Just like DIPLO has
>> great link with the civil society community and does a good job at ensuring
>> good civil society representation in 1Net
>>>  Regarding US-centric, tosh! only one of the people on that list
>>> actually lives in the US, and he is an Indian native. Only one is a US
>>> citizen. One other has a temporary job affiliations to a US institution,
>>> but has strong ties to Tunisia as a result of his research. This is a
>>> highly transnational group, and scholarship and academia is one of the most
>>> globalized arenas.
>> You have mentioned 3 out of 5 that has strong US affiliation, so how many
>> do we have left ;) Nevertheless i am not all about the numbers, but about
>> fair representation.
>> Cheers!


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