[discuss] [] FINAL VERSION OF THE DOCUMENT - FOR PRINTING

[Stephanie Perrin]

I agree and I think it would be a lost opportunity if we did not distill a few ideas of how we take what we learned here and apply it in concrete proposals for the IGF “strengthening”.
At the risk of cross-posting, I encourage everyone to look at Wolfgang Kleinwachter’s interview in the AGZ on Netmundial, I think he has hit the nail on the head. 
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/feuilleton/debatten/net-mundial-in-s-o-paulo-der-taegliche-kampf-um-die-freiheit-im-netz-12910313-p4.html
And at the risk of being repetitious, many thanks again to the Brazilians for having taken the leap to put this meeting together for us all, they worked tirelessly and as a result we are up one more rung on a long ladder that is getting us to a better global Internet.  Nothing this radical is going to be perfect the first time, so please don’t interpret any call for lessons-learned activity as criticism.  
Stephanie Perrin
On Apr 26, 2014, at 6:13 PM, Izumi AIZU <iza at anr.org> wrote:

> I echo with Avri and Raul mostly, but being a MAG member and also a former member of CSTD Working Group for the IGF improvement, I like add one more element.
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> IGF itself and MAG in particular have the Open Consultation process and our coming next Open Consultation is there within a few weeks time in Paris.
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> It will be very nice if lessens learned from NETMundial be presented in a way of concrete proposals and suggestions from anyone into the Open Consultation. 
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> So that MAG members and all stakeholders engaged will be able to consider these and go beyond the current state of play.
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> I mean, MAG (members) per se does not have power to change IGF by itself, but collective voice and work will have. I like to be the servant for that.
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> izumi
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> 2014-04-27 6:44 GMT+09:00 Raul Echeberria <raul at lacnic.net>:
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> Avri
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> I agree with you in everything you said.
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> Raúl
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> El 26/04/2014, a las 16:59, Avri Doria escribió:
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> > Hi,
> >
> > And beyond exegesis and spin on the document we should try to import
> > some of those techniques into the IGF so that it can also learn how to
> > produce some outcomes, e.g. inputs from IGF to other Ig organizations.
> >
> > Following the lead of NetMundial, it is time for the IGF MAG to throw
> > off its self imposed limitation of being merely a program committee so
> > it can make recommendations to the UNSG on how to turn the IGF into an
> > organization that can actually produce results.  While it is true that
> > the IGF has achieved a little just by existing, at this point if it
> > wants to remain viable it needs to move beyond its infancy and become a
> > useful organization.
> >
> > In addition to some of the important work done by NetMundial in bridging
> > the gap between the Internet and Human Rights and opening the door to
> > discussions on revising the government defined roles and
> > responsibilities of the actors in the Internet ecosystem from 2003, it
> > has shown us that it is possible for a multistakeholder organization to
> > produce outcomes.  It is now time for the IGF to figure out how to do
> > the same.
> >
> > Additionally, the NetMundial has sent some tasks the IGF's way.  I look
> > forward to work on such issues as Net Neutrality at IGF2014.
> >
> > The mission of the IGF has been given a real push by NetMundial, I hope
> > we don't waste the opportunity.
> >
> > avri
> >
> >
> > On 26-Apr-14 16:36, John Curran wrote:
> >> On Apr 25, 2014, at 9:58 PM, Marilyn Cade <marilynscade at hotmail.com
> >> <mailto:marilynscade at hotmail.com>> wrote:
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> >>> I think the opportunity ahead is how to further examine what the
> >>> "statement of Sao Paolo" says and how to continue work, especially at
> >>> IGF,  but not only there.
> >>
> >> Indeed.
> >> /John
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> >> Disclaimer: My views alone.
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