[discuss] NetMundial Initiative

Thu Aug 14 02:50:37 UTC 2014

Is it not important to know who made the selection of people?
Is that explained anywhere?  Very odd process....for a multi-stakeholder 
effort.
Stephanie
On 2014-08-13, 21:30, michael gurstein wrote:
>
> The level of participation seems a bit heavy duty for organizing a few 
> training programs, authorizing some digital literacy sessions and 
> ordering up a few policy discussion groups but I guess the CEO of 
> Google and the rest don't have all that much to do with their time...
>
> M
>
> *From:*Ian Peter [mailto:ian.peter at ianpeter.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 13, 2014 6:06 PM
> *To:* michael gursteinpe
> *Cc:* '1Net List'
> *Subject:* Re: [discuss] NetMundial Initiative
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> there are a few things mentioned in the background paper -- some about 
> capacity building, one about working to build trust in the internet 
> and its governance ecosystem, and one about addressing internet issues.
>
> *From:*michael gurstein <mailto:gurstein at gmail.com>
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> *Sent:*Thursday, August 14, 2014 10:43 AM
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> *To:*'Ian Peter' <mailto:ian.peter at ianpeter.com> ; 'Joana Varon' 
> <mailto:joana at varonferraz.com> ; 'Carlos A. Afonso' 
> <mailto:ca at cafonso.ca>
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> *Cc:*'1Net List' <mailto:discuss at 1net.org>
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> *Subject:*RE: [discuss] NetMundial Initiative
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> So what do you think they are looking to build?
>
> M
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> *From:*discuss-bounces at 1net.org <mailto:discuss-bounces at 1net.org> 
> [mailto:discuss-bounces at 1net.org] *On Behalf Of *Ian Peter
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 13, 2014 5:01 PM
> *To:* Ian Peter; Joana Varon; Carlos A. Afonso
> *Cc:* 1Net List
> *Subject:* Re: [discuss] NetMundial Initiative
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> Just to clarify my ambiguous statement-- the comment below as regards 
> "all from western countries" applies to academic selections, not civil 
> society. so to rephrase:
>
> representation is very imbalanced. Only 6 legitimate civil society 
> people and 4 academics among over 100 attendees. And over 90 % of 
> business reps, and 100% of academic reps, are from western countries.
>
> Yes, I know, you have to start somewhere. But if you are building 
> something, foundations matter.
>
> http://t.co/xUxOf0AvLl
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> *From:*Ian Peter <mailto:ian.peter at ianpeter.com>
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> *Sent:*Thursday, August 14, 2014 9:50 AM
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> *To:*Joana Varon <mailto:joana at varonferraz.com> ; Carlos A. Afonso 
> <mailto:ca at cafonso.ca>
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> *Cc:*1Net List <mailto:discuss at 1net.org>
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> *Subject:*Re: [discuss] NetMundial Initiative
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> there are a few leaked documents here.
>
> http://t.co/xUxOf0AvLl
>
> representation is very imbalanced. Only 6 legitimate civil society 
> people, 4 academics (all from western countries) among over 100 
> attendees. And over 90 % of business reps are from western countries.
>
> Yes, I know, you have to start somewhere. But if you are building 
> something, foundations matter.
>
> Ian Peter
>
> *From:*Joana Varon <mailto:joana at varonferraz.com>
>
> *Sent:*Thursday, August 14, 2014 6:59 AM
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> *To:*Carlos A. Afonso <mailto:ca at cafonso.ca>
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> *Cc:*1Net List <mailto:discuss at 1net.org>
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> *Subject:*Re: [discuss] NetMundial Initiative
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> @Peter, there is nowhere to see that. That is exactly the problem, no 
> one has been informed. As we can see from the answers of our 
> colleagues in this list. Quite different from NETMundial organization 
> process, transparency, openness and participation has not being the 
> values so far.
>
> It would be super useful we can use this list to exchange information 
> (as proposed by Avri) and views. Particularly because not everyone has 
> access to information on that.
>
> best
>
> joana
>
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Carlos A. Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca 
> <mailto:ca at cafonso.ca>> wrote:
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> Most of us in BR also know very little about this. Glad to have this 
> dialogue.
>
> []s fraternos
>
> --c.a.
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>
>
> On 08/13/2014 01:17 PM, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
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> 1. Great idea to re-initiate the list.  Thanks!
> 2.  I know absolutely nothing but am very curious.
> Stephanie
> On 14-08-13 11:52 AM, Avri Doria wrote:
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>
> On 13-Aug-14 09:29, Nnenna Nwakanma wrote:
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> I'm interested in the answer.
> Shouldnt it be a "Yes"?
>
> Probably, and perhaps I was being silly asking.  It was just with the
> re-birth of the list, I figured to tread carefully at first.
>
> I understand there will be some sort of announcement at the IGF about
> it, and I have been a part of few conversations where it was discussed,
> but where few of us really knew what we were talking about because each
> of us knew so little.  These were conversations in which various people
> tried to gather the shards of information they had managed to collect on
> the behind the scenes NI organizing effort, to try and get a larger
> picture.
>
> I was hoping that:
>
> a. this list might be an appropriate place to gather more of those
> shards together
>
> b. that perhaps, those with authoritative knowledge might share it.
>
> c. this larger non-governmental multistakeholder assemblage could start
> vetting the idea.
>
> But maybe I go too far while trying to tread carefully.
>
> avri
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