[discuss] NetMundial Initiative
seth.p.johnson at gmail.com
Thu Aug 14 04:30:08 UTC 2014
More that the IGF phase wasn't going to work. IGF has always been in
a tough spot, not so much fumbling the ball -- as if that's anything
other than an endemic feature of any organization of a similar
institutional nature -- but not empowered and pining for standing.
But Netmundial wasn't executed well in that regard (they announced
sponsorship of IGF, but they also weren't quite able to make things
stick), so they need to patch he information society process up by a
more blunt move that steps past IGF rather than going through a
process of engaging folks in issues via IGF as per plan. I think
they're figuring they'll be able to just brazen it out.
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Jeremy Malcolm <jmalcolm at eff.org> wrote:
> I think it's more the case that the IGF has so badly fumbled the ball that
> it falls to someone - anyone - else to pick it up. But that is not to
> discount the valid criticisms that others have expressed and that I agree
> Disclaimer: I'm a member of the evil cabal.
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> On Aug 13, 2014, at 6:57 PM, Jordan Carter <jordan at internetnz.net.nz> wrote:
> Can someone explain why a noted business centred forum is the place to
> launch an Internet governance initiative?
> I genuinely don't understand that.
> I thought the whole lesson of netmundial was that genuine multi stakeholder
> approaches work well, not that it was a nice experiment to be ignored.
> It would be helpful if those who rule us, as it were, would rapidly disclose
> some authoritative information.
> On Thursday, 14 August 2014, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell at cs.tcd.ie>
>> Gotta say... seems like elitist nonsense to me having looked
>> at the invite list and other docs. The elitist part should be
>> obvious. The nonsense part is due to almost none of the list
>> of invitees being known for knowing about the Internet. It
>> seems much more an elite than an Internet-savvy list of folks
>> being asked to form a new cabal. That said, cabals aren't all
>> bad, and I've no reason to think very badly of this particular
>> subset of the elite and its I guess just more meaningless policy
>> stuff so I don't need to care very much.
>> That said, it seems a pity for this to be the next step after
>> the Brazil gig which seemed relatively open.
>> On 14/08/14 02:36, William Drake wrote:
>> > Hi
>> > I proposed several times to the 1NET Co Com that 1NET explore serving as
>> > a more open multistakeholder vehicle for connecting people to the NETmundial
>> > Initiative. Several members expressed support for that, but since how the
>> > NMI will evolve remains very unclear it’s hard to know ex ante how this
>> > could work. I made the same suggestion to Fadi in London, didn’t get much
>> > reaction.
>> > As I understand the basic idea, NMI will have a six month launch managed
>> > by WEF but the hope would be that this leads to something broader and more
>> > inclusive in a second phase. Not how I would have done it, but that said I
>> > wouldn’t assume before the fact that the second phase will not come. We
>> > have to see for starters how the conversation goes 28 August and what is
>> > possible…
>> > Bill
>> > On Aug 13, 2014, at 10:00 PM, Avri Doria <avri at ACM.ORG> wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >> Just wondering, is this a proper list for those who have been catching
>> >> bits and pieces of the ICANN/WEF 'NetMundial Initiaitve' to be
>> >> discussed.
>> >> I think it might be, and have even suggested it to others, but figured
>> >> I
>> >> better check first.
>> >> avri
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