[discuss] NetMundial Initiative
Ian Peter
ian.peter at ianpeter.com
Thu Aug 14 08:28:49 UTC 2014
Thanks Janis for that useful information.
What puzzles me is the direct association being created with Netmundial – the WEF letterhead for this initiative has a footer with the site www.netmundial.org – the web address used for the Brazilian event.
Does WEF now own the name Netmundial? Who transferred it to them or gave them permission to use it? Is Netmundial’s future as an initiative of WEF?
I am puzzled by this direct association and use of the NetMundial brand.
Ian Peter
From: Janis Karklins
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 5:39 PM
To: Joana Varon
Cc: discuss at 1net.org
Subject: Re: [discuss] NetMundial Initiative
As being one of invited to the launch event of the WEF initiative I would like to share information that I possess.
The World Economic Forum is an international institution committed to improving the state of the world through public-private cooperation (statement on the website). WEF communities are various and more can be seen at http://www.weforum.org/communities. Organizationally the WEF is membership organization where big multinationals from all over the world are widely represented. The WEF invites representatives of governments, academia, civil society, world of arts participate in their meetings and engage with key industry leaders. This explains why the invitees list is one you see.
I was told that the initiative is geared towards bringing to attention of the industry leaders and key government representatives Internet governance issues, emphasising the need of preservation and promotion of the multi-stakeholder model, as well as supporting the IGF as a multi-stakeholder discussion platform by enlarging participation in its work of those companies and governments that haven't been involved until know.
I know that Alan Markus intends to present and discuss the initiative at the 2014 IGF meeting and there will be ample opportunity for the IG community to clarify details.
I hope that this information is useful.
JK
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Joana Varon <joana at varonferraz.com> wrote:
Current status of IG debate: we need leaks to know what is going on! Pretty bad for a start.
@jordan carter: "why a noted business centred forum is the place to launch an Internet governance initiative?" - a question to be echoed indeed.
It is a shame after the whole attempt of NETMudial to innovate in a meeting process, seeking some transparency, openness and inclusion, something like this comes up under the same "brand". Hello Brazil?!
@jeremy and members of the so called "evil cabal", if you go, you have an important role to feed people with the most important asset: information. I bet we will be always prompt for feedback.
hoping for the best, though looking at... the worst?
regards
joana
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On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:30 AM, Seth Johnson <seth.p.johnson at gmail.com> wrote:
More that the IGF phase wasn't going to work. IGF has always been in
a tough spot, not so much fumbling the ball -- as if that's anything
other than an endemic feature of any organization of a similar
institutional nature -- but not empowered and pining for standing.
But Netmundial wasn't executed well in that regard (they announced
sponsorship of IGF, but they also weren't quite able to make things
stick), so they need to patch he information society process up by a
more blunt move that steps past IGF rather than going through a
process of engaging folks in issues via IGF as per plan. I think
they're figuring they'll be able to just brazen it out.
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Jeremy Malcolm <jmalcolm at eff.org> wrote:
> I think it's more the case that the IGF has so badly fumbled the ball that
> it falls to someone - anyone - else to pick it up. But that is not to
> discount the valid criticisms that others have expressed and that I agree
> with.
>
> Disclaimer: I'm a member of the evil cabal.
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> On Aug 13, 2014, at 6:57 PM, Jordan Carter <jordan at internetnz.net.nz> wrote:
>
> Can someone explain why a noted business centred forum is the place to
> launch an Internet governance initiative?
>
> I genuinely don't understand that.
>
> I thought the whole lesson of netmundial was that genuine multi stakeholder
> approaches work well, not that it was a nice experiment to be ignored.
>
> It would be helpful if those who rule us, as it were, would rapidly disclose
> some authoritative information.
>
> Jordan
>
> On Thursday, 14 August 2014, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell at cs.tcd.ie>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Gotta say... seems like elitist nonsense to me having looked
>> at the invite list and other docs. The elitist part should be
>> obvious. The nonsense part is due to almost none of the list
>> of invitees being known for knowing about the Internet. It
>> seems much more an elite than an Internet-savvy list of folks
>> being asked to form a new cabal. That said, cabals aren't all
>> bad, and I've no reason to think very badly of this particular
>> subset of the elite and its I guess just more meaningless policy
>> stuff so I don't need to care very much.
>>
>> That said, it seems a pity for this to be the next step after
>> the Brazil gig which seemed relatively open.
>>
>> S.
>>
>>
>> On 14/08/14 02:36, William Drake wrote:
>> > Hi
>> >
>> > I proposed several times to the 1NET Co Com that 1NET explore serving as
>> > a more open multistakeholder vehicle for connecting people to the NETmundial
>> > Initiative. Several members expressed support for that, but since how the
>> > NMI will evolve remains very unclear it’s hard to know ex ante how this
>> > could work. I made the same suggestion to Fadi in London, didn’t get much
>> > reaction.
>> >
>> > As I understand the basic idea, NMI will have a six month launch managed
>> > by WEF but the hope would be that this leads to something broader and more
>> > inclusive in a second phase. Not how I would have done it, but that said I
>> > wouldn’t assume before the fact that the second phase will not come. We
>> > have to see for starters how the conversation goes 28 August and what is
>> > possible…
>> >
>> > Bill
>> >
>> > On Aug 13, 2014, at 10:00 PM, Avri Doria <avri at ACM.ORG> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> Just wondering, is this a proper list for those who have been catching
>> >> bits and pieces of the ICANN/WEF 'NetMundial Initiaitve' to be
>> >> discussed.
>> >>
>> >> I think it might be, and have even suggested it to others, but figured
>> >> I
>> >> better check first.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> avri
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