[discuss] Real world Impact of multiple roots

Brian E Carpenter brian.e.carpenter at gmail.com
Mon Feb 3 04:00:01 UTC 2014


On 03/02/2014 12:06, Michel Gauthier wrote:
> Hi! Folks,
> 
> Are you not getting bored repeating the same misreading for 14 years as
> if you had discovered the hidden face of the moon?
> 
> The second paragraph simplly says that users are able to be free and
> there are intelligent ways not to be obliged to see what one does not
> want to see. People are free to say what they want, and free not to
> receive what the do not want.

I'm sorry, but that is your interpretation of the words, not
what the words mean.

The words are a technical statement: if the root splits, users
might be directed to a different web site than the one originally
intended to have a given URL. There is no judgment in that text,
nothing about "freedom" or seeing "what one does not want to see."
Those are your words, not an implication of the IAB's words.

FYI, the IAB's words originated as a formal comment to ICANN
sent in September 1999 (under my name, as IAB Chair at the time):
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce-old/ut9aeZoSbY4_GxMdmhyEDBX_Dvg%3D/

> Please do your home work on this issue before showing yourself entirely
> out of scope; One thing you can do is to read the ICANN authoritative
> position on the matter.
> http://www.icann.org/en/about/unique-authoritative-root. 

The IAB was glad to see that at that time, since it entirely agreed
with the IAB position.

> If you want to
> know more about the internet as it is and disucss it less as it is not;
> http://caida.org.

Which particular aspect of CAIDA's view of the Internet do you mean?
There's a vast amount of information there and at other measurement
sites.

   Brian

> 
> Sorry to be rough, but reading the same irrelevant thing for the 250th
> time... obliges to respond the same thing for the 500th time to students
> or readers who believe they discovered the visible face of the moon :-)
> 
> M G
> 
> At 21:19 02/02/2014, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
>> The second paragraph sums it up nicely
> 
>> From: discuss-bounces at 1net.org [discuss-bounces at 1net.org] on behalf of
>> Bob Omondi [omondibob at gmail.com]
>> This is what the IAB had to say about this in may 2000 (
>> <http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2826.txt>http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2826.txt
>> )
>>
>> "Summary
>>
>> "To remain a global network, the Internet requires the existence of a
>> globally unique public name space. The DNS name space is a
>> hierarchical name space derived from a single, globally unique root.
>> This is a technical constraint inherent in the design of the DNS.
>> Therefore it is not technically feasible for there to be more than one
>> root in the public DNS. That one root must be supported by a set of
>> coordinated root servers administered by a unique naming authority.
>> "Put simply, deploying multiple public DNS roots would raise a very
>> strong possibility that users of different ISPs who click on the same
>> link on a web page could end up at different destinations, against the
>> will of the web page designers."
> 
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