[discuss] Real world Impact of multiple roots

Mon Feb 3 22:30:47 UTC 2014

Why PCH?  If your going to include infrastructure, then Dyn, ATT, Tela-2, Orange, IXG, etc.  should be included.

Answers, as seen from here:

1 - yes
2 - yes
3 - http://www.icann.org/en/groups/rssac/root-scaling-study-report-31aug09-en.pdf is a good place to start
4 - Depends on where you draw the lines for “the Internet” - the answers will be none at all to catastrophic
5 - Again, depends on how a  Risk Profile is drawn - I suspect it will be different depending on jurisdiction, if the WCIT & the ongoing discussions @ IGF et.al. are indicative.
6 - yes - change is bad for stability.  what is your risk tolerance for change?
7 - whois is, for all intents, worthless.
8 - depends on how “alternate roots” are defined/created.  There is a real risk with common points of failure.
9 - hundreds if not thousands of businesses think there is advantage to alternate roots - they have been using them for decades.
10 - no, not in the ways most people think.
11-18 …  not enough time to do these justice now
19 - certainly.  they do every day
20 - pending
21 -  no, they do not.
22-23 .. pending

/bill  (B operations)
Neca eos omnes.  Deus suos agnoscet.

On 3February2014Monday, at 14:02, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear All,
> 
> I must say that following this thread has been somewhat interesting. The fact that the discussions have been ongoing for the past decade or more shows that the discussions have not been fully aired out. I have consolidated aspects and links shared in this thread and wonder whether organised a webcast on the matter might be useful.
> 
> I have also identified some questions that arise out of the discussions.
> 
> A Panel could be convened to discuss the following:
> 
> 
> 	• ICANN [ICP-3 A Unique Authoritative Root for the DNS ] via  Root Server System Advisory Committee (RSSAC) and Security Stability Advisory Committee (SSAC) - 
> 	• Internet Architecture Board (IAB) - RFC 2826 and IETF Announcement 
> 	• US based Root Zone Operator
> 	• Non-US based Root Zone Operator 
> 	• Packet Clearing House
> 	• Other
> 	• Other
> 	• Other
> 
> Selection of panel should be those for a single unified root and those against it. It would be good to have a dialogue where speakers are timed in their responses.
> 
> Some questions that surface from the exchange in thought and interaction on this topic are as follows:
> 
> Questions
> 
> 
> 1. Are decisions by the RSSAC  and SSAC open and accessible to the Public?
> 
> 2. Are the Audits conducted by RSSAC open and accessible to the Public?
> 
> 3.What are the threats and risks to the Root Zone?
> 
> 4.How do these threats threaten the security of the Internet?
> 
> 5. Are there aspects of these threats commercial and/or related to national security? If so describe.
> 
> 6.Are there aspects of these threats that interfere with the stability of the Internet. If so describe. How do these threats affect global public interest? Would this interfere with real time gross settlements where electronic banking is concerned. Would it increase incidences of cyber crime? Would it increase and multiply current vulnerabilities that exist?
> 
> 7.What would this mean for Whois? Will this make it harder for law enforcement in instances of cyber crime?
> 
> 8)What are some advantages of having alternative roots?
> 
> 9)Are there commercial advantages of having alternative roots?
> 
> 10) Would increasing alternative roots increase competition and increase the market?
> 
> 11)Are there security comparative advantages to having alternative roots?
> 
> 12)Do the risks of having alternative roots outweigh the comparative advantages?
> 
> 13) Do the comparative advantages outweigh the risks of having alternative roots?
> 
> 14)What are the implications for DNSSEC if there are alternative roots if currently there are 427 TLDs in the root zone of which 235 are signed and that 229 have trust anchors published in the DS records in the root zone whilst 4 TLDs have trust anchors published in the ISC DLV Repository?
> 
> 15)If there are 7 billion people on the planet and 2.1 billion are currently recorded as users, could new test models be developed for the remaining unreached population where lessons are learnt from existing models?
> 
> 16)Are the countries who are moving to develop alternative roots despite contrary public opinion? In the unlikely case that they do, would the community be prepared to mitigate risks?
> 
> 17)Can what Country X calls its critical information infrastructure become the collective responsibility of a multistakeholder community?
> 
> 18)What are the implications of alternative roots on international relations?
> 
> 19)Does Country X have the legal authority to access information from the Root Zone?
> 
> 20)What are ways to instill confidence in a single unified root?
> 
> 21)Do all the stakeholders share the same vision of an open and free internet?
> 
> 22)How do stakeholders define what is open and free? Is it the same?
> 
> 23)What role can stakeholders play to preserve what is best for an open and free internet?
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