[discuss] Problem definition 1, version 5

Wed Jan 22 21:00:34 UTC 2014

Hi Marilia, I guess Milton means privatization without any public 
supervision, which does not solve the issues you mention, however.
jeanette

Am 22.01.2014 21:55, schrieb Marilia Maciel:
>> 3) denationalization, i.e., delegation to a transnational private actor
>
> Could we really say that delegation to a transnational private actor
> means to "de-nationalize"? I tend to think this is over-simplification.
> This private actor may not have a corresponding nationality in the sense
> that a country does. But if we zoom in and look inside it, there are
> other issues to take into account. Where is it based? What is its
> institutional culture? Where is its staff from? Who are the members?  Do
> vocal people inside it really correspond to a global diversity of views?
> There are many different ways in which apparently de-nationalized
> transnational actors may in fact have nationality(ies).
> Marília
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> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu
> <mailto:mueller at syr.edu>> wrote:
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>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Oscar A. Robles-Garay [mailto:orobles at nic.mx
>     <mailto:orobles at nic.mx>]
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>      >I don't see (yet) "denationalization" as an option,
>      >I don't think we have something besides (or parallel) to
>     governments/nations
>      >that can exert authority (the right to exert violence) over a
>     relationship among individuals.
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>     You're wrong. You have a lot of history to read. There are many
>     examples of nonstate actors governing key sectors, but rather than
>     cite them all I will simply refer you to the White Paper that
>     established ICANN, which actually pledged to denationalize, 15 years
>     ago, or to the RIRs, which you may be associated with. I'd be happy
>     to explain in more detail offline, or I can refer you to Networks
>     and States.
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