[discuss] [governance] [bestbits] Fwd: Heads up on Brazil meeting preparation
Louis Pouzin (well)
pouzin at well.com
Mon Jan 27 18:14:42 UTC 2014
JCN. You hit the bull's-eye.
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On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 6:17 PM, JCN Global <jc.nothias at theglobaljournal.net
> Sorry for it took me bit longer than expected to come back to you,
> following your last email. I was not so interested to go into your last
> comment, and your great knowledge of French culture and History.
> I think one of the challenges we are all facing now is: TRUST. I do blame
> the US for getting the level of Trust over IG debate to a minus-zero level,
> and feel like it is still time to deconstruct a narrative that is now fully
> out of scope and concern.
> Contrary to the idea of a disjunction and or a subset of ICANN/IANA
> functions away from the US DoC, I do believe that what is most need is a
> supreme international body to which stakeholders can turn themselves to in
> order to have any claim brought to a truly independent body. I am more
> interested to see how a 'Law of the Internet' can be taken care of by such
> a body. Detaching the DoC from ICANN is indeed what is of present concern.
> But refusing to take International law, as the right way to get all
> national authorities signatures at the bottom of an international treaty,
> is so unthinkable that I do believe the status-quoers are fully aware of
> what they are doing to oppose any change. I do not see how any 'Equal
> Footing' empty principle could ever bring a government to sign such a
> treaty. You have been refusing this for years. It is no longer a
> sustainable position. And I do suspect that you know it.
> But, as I wrote first, my primary concern is about TRUST. Therefore, I
> have no other choice than to denounce the multistakeholder fluff and its
> empty ideas.
> That is the sense of my last HuffPost. It has nothing to do with what you
> characterized as US-phobic view. I have way too many friends in the US,
> honest, brilliant and so kind, that I can only regret the way Internet
> Governance and its asymmetric situation have driven you guys out of your
> The Asymmetrics, the WEF, ICANN, Brazil, and the 'Little Red Book' of
> Le 10 janv. 2014 à 23:24, Milton L Mueller a écrit :
> >Or do you feel so badly that the United States Department of Commerce,
> and other
> >acronyms needed a Professor of your standing to come to their rescue.
> You can ask the Department of Commerce about me coming to their rescue. I
> am not sure they view me as their savior.
> If you don’t like the US role, would it not be more constructive to make a
> specific proposals regarding how to detach the Department of Commerce from
> ICANN and the IANA contract? (as some of us have been advocating for
> years). If you don’t do this, would it be fair to conclude that you are
> more interested in public displays and posturing than in actually making
> things better?
> Are there any specific reform proposals to be found floating amongst the
> rhetorical perorations? Try communicating those and see if you get a better
> Some of us do find your neo-DeGaullist Americo-phobic expressions quite
> entertaining, even riotously comical at times, but we read the list for
> other purposes.
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