[discuss] Failure of the Survey

Ian Peter ian.peter at ianpeter.com
Wed Mar 5 19:47:38 UTC 2014

+1 Greg

Paul, I would say in addition that I know I am not the only person who 
participated in the survey who opposed its use as a NetMundial input after 
completing it. Many of us participated out of curiosity or to ensure our 
opinions were included if against our wishes the survey did proceed.

Participation in the survey cannot be construed as agreement with this 
rushed process or agreement that the outputs are in any way representative 
of 1net. I would add that due to its wide promotion through vehicles such as 
.nxt it cannot be seen to be a survey of 1net participants or presented as 
such. Without knowing the names of respondents, I would not be surprised to 
see that the majority were not 1net participants.

Ian Peter

-----Original Message----- 
From: Shatan, Gregory S.
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 4:44 AM
To: 'Paul Wilson' ; Adiel Akplogan
Cc: discuss at 1net.org List
Subject: Re: [discuss] Failure of the Survey

I think it would be useful to use the results and commentary to advance 
discussions on the list.  But this should be for internal purposes only.

I am opposed to using the results outside of this group in any way.  They 
are not valid, especially since it appears that a number of list 
participants who felt the least aligned with the bias of the survey, or the 
most concerned with the premise, chose not to participate in the survey.

Greg Shatan

-----Original Message-----
From: discuss-bounces at 1net.org [mailto:discuss-bounces at 1net.org] On Behalf 
Of Paul Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 9:56 AM
To: Adiel Akplogan
Cc: discuss at 1net.org List
Subject: Re: [discuss] Failure of the Survey

Dear Adiel,

If 150 people opted in to the survey then I certainly hope that those 
efforts will not have been for nothing.

I hope that the responses can be collated and synthesised in some way, and 
sent to NETmundial as a submission which is representative not of /1net, but 
rather as an attempt to represent the views of 150 /1net participants who 
chose to respond.   In the time available I think this must be submitted in 
the name(s) of those who undertook the survey, with a disclaimer that their 
interpretation is not formally representative (except in terms of raw 
numerical analysis).  Also in the interest of transparency I suggest that 
the raw data be published and submitted at the same time (with name and 
email id removed, along with any other identifying data which may have been 

This is a nontrivial exercise but I hope that someone is generous enough 
with their time to make the effort.  If not, then so be it; I cannot spend 
this time myself and don't demand that others should work for nothing.

Thanks for your own efforts on this initiative.


On 06/03/2014, at 12:36 AM, Adiel Akplogan <adiel at afrinic.net> wrote:

> Dear all,
> I think the massive disagreement on the process and this overall attempt 
> to put something together for /1net as contribution to NETMundial by 8th 
> March is loudly heard. I don't think the intention was to impose the 
> content to anyone on the list. But mistakes and missteps happen. We need 
> to learn from them to improve but we must move on. I can tell you that 
> there won't be any submission to NETMundial from /1Net anymore and the 
> survey will not serve any similar purpose either. A process for 
> efficiently engage the wider list on activities like this and the 
> interaction with the SC should be developed (with the input off all) and 
> implement. However I will suggest that the comments received (from those 
> nevertheless who took their time to fill in the survey) be used to advance 
> some of the discussions on this list. There are already more than  150 
> people who took it (from information I have), with some interesting 
> contributions and views. If there are other idea on how to use what will 
> be collected, please share. Sorry for the  failure of this particular 
> process and please let close the discussion about it for now and move on 
> to discuss the important matters in hand.
> Thanks.
> - a.
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