[discuss] On Addresses and Identifiers / proceeding properly

Lee Howard Lee at asgard.org
Fri Mar 7 17:24:28 UTC 2014

On 3/7/14 7:12 AM, "Jefsey" <jefsey at jefsey.com> wrote:

>Dear Lee,
>Thanks, but I am sure Michel was not considering operator
>"soverignty", but States and people sovereignty. At least I am. You
>know things like Putin does in Crimea.

The case was, "What if the government made a network use addresses not
acknowledged by the rest of the world."
The answer is, "The network would no longer be on the Internet."

Minimum requirement: interoperability.  Without that, no Internet.


>At 16:59 07/03/2014, Lee Howard wrote:
>>On 3/7/14 5:39 AM, "Jefsey" <jefsey at jefsey.com> wrote:
>> >At 07:06 07/03/2014, McTim wrote:
>> >>I did answer, and I used to work at one of the RIRs AND I was Chair
>> >>of the Policy WG of another RIR, so I think I have a bit of clue.
>> >>What wasn't answered?
>> >
>> >I think that what was not answered was a basic question of
>> >multirelational sovereignty: do we think that IETF RFCs, I*practices,
>> >RIRs tables, or /1net recommandations are binding international laws
>> >the disrespect of which will be globally and consensually accepted as
>> >a motive for economic crisis, cyberwar or more.
>> >
>> >In other terms, who is sovereign in the cyberspace? And what is
>> >sovereignty in there?
>>The operator of the network is sovereign over the operation of that
>>If that operator defers sovereignty to another authority, that is their
>>Choices may have implications.
>>If a network operator chooses (or chooses to comply with an order) to use
>>addresses which other network operator will not route, the ramification
>>that choice is a lack of interconnectivity.
>> >jfc
>> >
>> >
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