[discuss] CGI.br contributions to NetMundial: surveillance

Nick Ashton-Hart nashton at ccianet.org
Mon Mar 17 14:13:05 UTC 2014

Thanks, Carlos.

I have to say that the position on surveillance seems odd to me. CGI.br seems to be suggesting - and someone correct me if I'm wrong - that:

1) the IG ecosystem needs a body to 'discuss and coordinate solutions' for 'human rights protections' - yet the Human Rights Council is doing precisely this, and at the insistence of, amongst others, Brazil. Why would IG be a good place for such work, given the expertise needed is present in the HRC context? This is especially puzzling given that the statement contains many provisions which are specifically addressed and under discussion in the HRC now.

2) It suggests that the use of personal data by governments is equivalent to that of companies and other non-state actors. It seems clear to me that these are entirely different: after all, none of us have any knowledge or control over what governments have access to our information (even our own, in many cases). Whether you have issues with Internet services' EULAs or not, it is certainly the case that using them is a voluntary act which you know about.

3) In the second-to-last paragraph, it suggests that norms are needed to protect data at the international level. While MLAT reform does provide an avenue for creating rules of the road for the use of data, it is hard to imagine any country allowing the UN to decide what national security uses of data are allowed.

I look forward to thoughts on the subject!

On 17 Mar 2014, at 14:47, Carlos A. Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca> wrote:

> Hi people,
> Please find attached in plain text three contributions sent by CGI.br to
> NetMundial:
> - Evolution and Internationalization of ICANN
> - The Importance of a Multistakeholder Approach to Cybersecurity
> Effectiveness
> - Privacy and Surveillance
> There is another contribution which simply reproduces our 10 Principles,
> which are well known, so no need to replicate here.
> fraternal regards
> --c.a.
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