[discuss] What is MSism?

Jefsey jefsey at jefsey.com
Sat Mar 29 16:16:57 UTC 2014

At 15:25 29/03/2014, S Moonesamy wrote:
>Who decides which idea is better can be a form of power.  An 
>alternative is to leave the decision to an (open) group of 
>people.  Another alternative is to decide through voting.  This is 
>where it get complex as one has to choose a voting system and who is 
>eligible to vote.

The power is in deciding who belongs to the group who will decide if 
the idea is good. "We hate kings, presidents and votes" in a meshed 
system. MSism depends on the practical openess of the group (I note 
that you put open between parethesis). Depending on the selection 
mechanism it is aristocracy, oligarchy or radical monopoly. If there 
is no selection and multilinguistics, it is polycracy.

>Quoting the ITU Secretary-General [2]:
>   "I was pleased because ITU ­ which it is my privilege to lead ­ 
> can truly be said
>    to have invented the concept of multi-stakeholderism."

Perfectly true. The current debate is between two MS groups: the ITU 
majority and the ITU minority, along the same filtering rules (I 
know, I went there in the past as an US stakeholder). "if you tally 
up population, the signatories cover 3.8 billion people, while the 
non-signatories cover 2.6 billion. And there are another ~600 million 
in play in those other countries. " 

For the NTIA, all these people are no stakeholders. Only Steve 
Crocker, John Curran, etc. are.

I am, you are no stakeholders. Our ideas have not been selected as 
good ones. This is why only technology can help. We cannot 
participate, but our machines "cann".
Code is law, let respect the law!

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