[discuss] What kind of "governance" do you want? (was Re: What is MSism?)

[Jefsey]

At 13:13 31/03/2014, Stephen Farrell wrote:
>if someone were to ask any government or the EU commission what
>they think about PM, I'm quite sure that the response would be
>schizophrenic - it seems to me personally that most such
>organisations want to both protect privacy but also to snoop
>to the greatest extent they can (without being carelessly
>caught;-)

What a State wants is to avoid leaks and control the privacy tap that 
protect privacy and permits to chase crime.

I am fully with you when you write: "Those developing IETF 
specifications therefore need to consider mitigating PM when making 
these architectural decisions". However, the problem with the 
internet is architectonical (see my preceding mail). The real 
solution is therefore simple but detrimental to status-quo 
(encpsulating the Internet into the InterPLUS, presentation 
[multi-technology, multilinguistics, security, identification 
parameter, semiotic internet, etc. extended services] layer on the user side).

I am afraid that the end to end solutions the IETF can propose, based 
upon "the design of protocols that make PM significantly more 
expensive or infeasible" are obviously good, but not enough. We need 
a public policy incitation/law for people and business to switch to a 
more advanced context (which is at the fringe [cf. RFC 1958], beyond 
the end to end IETF area). We can all ally and design and test the 
best solution, if it deploys at the IPv6 speed, we will not be protected.

This is why, we are advocating an alliance with the users themsleves. 
In this we meet a stronger opposition than NSA: the Marketing/Mass 
Surveillance Applications (MSA). This is why we have no opposition to 
the NTIA desexecutivation of ICANN, as we think we can partly defeat 
its implied legal colonization plan, but we need governmental support 
to protect people's digitalities (the digital face of personality) 
from MSAs and their increased US legal protection through the IoT.

jfc