[discuss] Statement to present at World Internet Conference @ Wuzhen

James Seng james.seng at gmail.com
Mon Nov 17 06:29:45 UTC 2014


I intent to modify the statement to:

"We, the undersigned, sincerely invite the leaders of the Chinese Internet
Community to recognize the generally acceptable Internet principles as a
base upon which to build for the Internet in China."

Would that be okay?

-James Seng

On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Pindar Wong <pindar.wong at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you Dave.
>
> For those of us in Hong Kong, your signature is especially meaningful.
>
> p.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Dave Farber <dave at farber.net> wrote:
>
>> Ok I'll sign it
>> On Nov 16, 2014 8:21 PM, "Pindar Wong" <pindar.wong at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It would be really good if you could also sign it Dave.
>>>
>>> May I suggest then to change the text from
>>>
>>> 'to take the principles of NETmundial and to build upon them for the
>>>
>>> Chinese Internet.'
>>>
>>> to:
>>>
>>> 'to take the principles of NETmundial.br of April 2014
>>> <http://netmundial.br/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/NETmundial-Multistakeholder-Document.pdf>
>>> and to build upon them for the
>>>
>>> Chinese Internet.'
>>>
>>> This would avoid the 'confusingly similar' ;) NETmundial Initiative
>>> (NMI).
>>>
>>> As far as the later, I believe the ISOC BoT had this so say yesterday:-
>>>
>>>
>>> http://internetsociety.org/news/internet-society-statement-netmundial-initiative
>>>
>>> p.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 8:29 AM, DAVID J. FARBER <farber at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you add the term original bazilian netmundir rather than the
>>>> ambiguioius just netmundie, I would like to sign it. I want to
>>>> distinguished from the current suggestions .
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 15, 2014 10:18 AM, "Christopher Wilkinson" <
>>>> lists at christopherwilkinson.eu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> James:
>>>>>
>>>>> You may add my name to the list of signatories:
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Christopher Wilkinson 秦基辅
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 14 Nov 2014, at 07:51, Pindar Wong <pindar.wong at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear James,
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps also consider that your recommendation be reworded as follows:-
>>>>>
>>>>> "Specifically, we would like to highlight the following
>>>>> recommendations to:
>>>>>
>>>>> Preserve Internet as an innovation environment based on open and
>>>>> distributed architecture;
>>>>>
>>>>> Develop the Internet as an unified and unfragmented space based on
>>>>> end-to-end open Internet and adoption of IPv6;
>>>>>
>>>>> Promote open standards made by rough consensus of the global technical
>>>>> community;
>>>>>
>>>>> Uphold the security, stability and resilience of the Internet through
>>>>> strong cooperation among different stakeholders;'
>>>>>
>>>>> Also perhaps this friendly amendment:-
>>>>>
>>>>> 'Support the evolving Internet governance ecosystem by building upon
>>>>> existing multi-stakeholder processes ensuring meaningful and accountable
>>>>> *participation*.'
>>>>>
>>>>> m2c,
>>>>>
>>>>> p.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:43 PM, James Seng <james.seng at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, very good point. It should be Internet in China.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, November 13, 2014, WUKnoben <
>>>>>> wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With regards to para 3, I wonder whether making reference to the
>>>>>>> “Internet in China” instead of the “Chinese Internet” would make the global
>>>>>>> approach of the statement more clear.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wolf-Ulrich
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  *From:* James Seng
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 12, 2014 5:43 AM
>>>>>>> *To:* At-Large Worldwide ; mailto:discuss at 1net.org
>>>>>>> *Subject:* [discuss] Statement to present at World Internet
>>>>>>> Conference @ Wuzhen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Dear all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A couple of us have prepared a statement (as attached) to present at
>>>>>>> the World Internet Conference @ Wuzhen next week.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any suggestions to the statements are welcome.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you are willing to add your name to the statement, please drop me
>>>>>>> an email.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -James Seng
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> -James Seng
>>>>>>
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-James Seng
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