[discuss] Statement to present at World Internet Conference @ Wuzhen

[Pindar Wong]

Well... looks arguable vague to me James. Which 'generally acceptable
Internet principles' do you refer to?

Whereas April's NETmundial.br referenced earlier had a clear process and
clear outcome captured in a public document.

p.


On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 2:29 PM, James Seng <james.seng at gmail.com> wrote:

> I intent to modify the statement to:
>
> "We, the undersigned, sincerely invite the leaders of the Chinese
> Internet Community to recognize the generally acceptable Internet
> principles as a base upon which to build for the Internet in China."
>
> Would that be okay?
>
> -James Seng
>
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Pindar Wong <pindar.wong at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Dave.
>>
>> For those of us in Hong Kong, your signature is especially meaningful.
>>
>> p.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Dave Farber <dave at farber.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok I'll sign it
>>> On Nov 16, 2014 8:21 PM, "Pindar Wong" <pindar.wong at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It would be really good if you could also sign it Dave.
>>>>
>>>> May I suggest then to change the text from
>>>>
>>>> 'to take the principles of NETmundial and to build upon them for the
>>>>
>>>> Chinese Internet.'
>>>>
>>>> to:
>>>>
>>>> 'to take the principles of NETmundial.br of April 2014
>>>> <http://netmundial.br/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/NETmundial-Multistakeholder-Document.pdf>
>>>> and to build upon them for the
>>>>
>>>> Chinese Internet.'
>>>>
>>>> This would avoid the 'confusingly similar' ;) NETmundial Initiative
>>>> (NMI).
>>>>
>>>> As far as the later, I believe the ISOC BoT had this so say yesterday:-
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://internetsociety.org/news/internet-society-statement-netmundial-initiative
>>>>
>>>> p.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 8:29 AM, DAVID J. FARBER <farber at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If you add the term original bazilian netmundir rather than the
>>>>> ambiguioius just netmundie, I would like to sign it. I want to
>>>>> distinguished from the current suggestions .
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 15, 2014 10:18 AM, "Christopher Wilkinson" <
>>>>> lists at christopherwilkinson.eu> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> James:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You may add my name to the list of signatories:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Christopher Wilkinson 秦基辅
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 14 Nov 2014, at 07:51, Pindar Wong <pindar.wong at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear James,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps also consider that your recommendation be reworded as
>>>>>> follows:-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Specifically, we would like to highlight the following
>>>>>> recommendations to:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Preserve Internet as an innovation environment based on open and
>>>>>> distributed architecture;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Develop the Internet as an unified and unfragmented space based on
>>>>>> end-to-end open Internet and adoption of IPv6;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Promote open standards made by rough consensus of the global
>>>>>> technical community;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Uphold the security, stability and resilience of the Internet through
>>>>>> strong cooperation among different stakeholders;'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also perhaps this friendly amendment:-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'Support the evolving Internet governance ecosystem by building upon
>>>>>> existing multi-stakeholder processes ensuring meaningful and accountable
>>>>>> *participation*.'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> m2c,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> p.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:43 PM, James Seng <james.seng at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, very good point. It should be Internet in China.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, November 13, 2014, WUKnoben <
>>>>>>> wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With regards to para 3, I wonder whether making reference to the
>>>>>>>> “Internet in China” instead of the “Chinese Internet” would make the global
>>>>>>>> approach of the statement more clear.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wolf-Ulrich
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  *From:* James Seng
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 12, 2014 5:43 AM
>>>>>>>> *To:* At-Large Worldwide ; mailto:discuss at 1net.org
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [discuss] Statement to present at World Internet
>>>>>>>> Conference @ Wuzhen
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   Dear all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A couple of us have prepared a statement (as attached) to present
>>>>>>>> at the World Internet Conference @ Wuzhen next week.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any suggestions to the statements are welcome.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you are willing to add your name to the statement, please drop
>>>>>>>> me an email.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -James Seng
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> -James Seng
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