[discuss] [governance] RE: [ciresearchers] NETmundial documents online for comment

michael gurstein gurstein at gmail.com
Fri Apr 18 20:20:32 UTC 2014

Thanks c.a.

And remembering that in an earlier distant life I was a sociologist. Perhaps
you could elaborate on what you have written below... I really don't see how
having self-selected "stakeholders" sitting around a table making
deals/decisions that affect themselves (and their interests) and everyone
else (most of whom would have no real opportunity to function as
"stakeholders" whether through exclusionary practices of existing
stakeholders or because of a lack of resources etc.) can in any sense be
"made" democratic.

But I could be wrong.


-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos A. Afonso [mailto:ca at cafonso.ca] 
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 4:30 PM
To: McTim; governance at lists.igcaucus.org; michael gurstein
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Subject: Re: [discuss] [governance] RE: [ciresearchers] NETmundial documents
online for comment

Since I do not bother being bashed, I dare to advance (borrowing from
Geometry, please recall that in the distant past I did naval
engineering) that "multistakeholder" is orthogonal to "democracy",
"participation" and so on. We make multistakeholder democratic and
participative by our own (each stakeholder's) actions.

fraternal regards


On 04/18/2014 12:05 PM, McTim wrote:
>> Clearly there is an intent to replace democratic governance with 
>> multistakeholder governance. But this issue is not addressed in a 
>> forthright manner anywhere in the document.
> I believer the opposite to be true.
> You and a few other folk would like to replace the 40 year old 
> existing governance model of the Internet with a version of 
> Westphalianism.
> --
> McTim
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