[discuss] Time to be more precise about Internet Governance

Nick Ashton-Hart nashton at ccianet.org
Fri Jan 3 08:07:05 UTC 2014

A big +1 to Olivier's comments. As one of the staff members at ICANN responsible for supporting At-Large I don't recognize Jorge's characterisation of AL at all. In particular, the idea that elections are 'fixed' is particularly untrue - the electoral machinery and processes in that community are far more transparent, rules-based, and likely to produce truly representative results than anything I have seen in any other IG related process.

Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com> wrote:
>Dear Jorge,
>On 30/12/2013 06:13, Jorge Amodio wrote:
>> About representation, again taking ICANN as an example, and this is
>> something I've been following for many years since the creation of
>> ALAC, RALOs and ALSs, the mechanisms used to certify representation
>> are so lax that you can get together with a bunch of friends or
>> colleges, incorporate a non-profit entity, generate some activity,
>> become an ALS, join a RALO, play some politics, get elected among
>> friends that fix the election process in the background, and voila
>> are a new member of the club. And here is where the musical chairs
>> game and multiple hats dance starts. The issue becomes to "belong"
>> into the ecosystem, today I'm in ALAC, tomorrow I'm on NCSG, then
>> GNSO, while not the GAC, next time I'll be chair of something and
>> perhaps get on the BoD, and given that I "belong" now I am an expert
>> !! so I can teach about "Internet Governance" 
>Permit me to disagree with your characterisation of the ALAC and
>At-Large Community. The people that serve on the ALAC and in various
>committees work hard to experiment with the bottom-up multi-stakeholder
>model which is not an easy ride every day. This has more in common with
>pioneering masochism than with the "club" which you describe. Why don't
>you get actively involved to sample the pain, headaches and occasional
>Kind regards,
>Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond
>ALAC Chair
>discuss mailing list
>discuss at 1net.org

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