[discuss] Representation of Internet users (was Patriot Act & Routing + TPIG question)

Shatan, Gregory S. GShatan at ReedSmith.com
Tue Jan 7 01:29:30 UTC 2014

On an entirely separate point, I note your starting premise that "Internet users are not represented."  Do you mean not represented on this 1net list?  In 1net generally? In Internet Governance generally?  Who does "Civil Society" seek to represent? Only NGOs?  How about ALAC within ICANN?

I would be curious to see how others on this list respond to this proposition.

Greg Shatan
(Opinions my own)

(Changing thread name to  distinguish it,  as suggested by best practices discussion recently on this list)

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From: discuss-bounces at 1net.org [mailto:discuss-bounces at 1net.org] On Behalf Of Michel Gauthier
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 6:29 PM
To: discuss at 1net.org
Subject: [discuss] Patriot Act & Routing + TPIG question

Since internet users are not represented, here are two questions I have been asked to ask:

1. If an e-mail transits through the USA, it seems that Patriot Act states that an American Juge can summon the author and ask the CIA to "intrade" him/her to that end.  Since we know that the USCC/NSA has the capacity to read transiting e-mails. could the IETF

- either devise a solution for the users to be sure that tjeir datagrams will not go across the US or any other country which might have similar laws,

- or - if this is not possible - to add to the packet a kind of "legal embargo" making it illegal to use the content of the datagram against its author.

2. through which channel such user needs should be best introduced to be seriously considered and effectively addressed by the technical and political Internet Governance?


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