[discuss] The love-hate relationship between the Internet technical community and civil society

Thu Feb 27 07:34:14 UTC 2014

Sounds like the Tower of Babel..:)

I guess they must learn to be Frenemies (and yes that includes us Private Sector types!) :)

Ali Hussein

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"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots".  ~ Albert Einstein

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> On Feb 27, 2014, at 9:56 AM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Sounds interesting.
> 
> I guess that is why I have often had trouble as I consider myself as belonging to both of these communities.
> 
> avri
> 
> 
>> On 27-Feb-14 03:13, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
>> Here's the abstract of a a fun lightning talk that I'l be giving at
>> APRICOT 2014 today.  Recognise these stereotypes?
>> 
>>    To techies, "civil society" is a useless concept, referring to a
>>    bunch of failed career politicians who lack a basic understanding of
>>    the technology behind the Internet, have no legitimacy to represent
>>    Internet users, and litter their conversation with stupid acronyms
>>    like "WSIS", "MDGs" and "LDCs".
>> 
>>    To civil society, the technical community are a bunch of
>>    narrow-minded libertarian geeks, who can't (or refuse to) understand
>>    the policy dimensions of technology, or how it is shaped by power
>>    and money, and who litter their conversation with stupid acronyms
>>    like "BGP", "MPLS" and "DNSSEC".
>> 
>>    However, the future of the Internet depends on the two sides
>>    learning to get along. Both need to recognise their own limitations,
>>    and the value of what the other side has to contribute. Civil
>>    society and the technical community may hate each other sometimes,
>>    but could they really be a perfect match?
>> 
>> Watch this lightning presentation live at
>> http://apnic.adobeconnect.com/apricot2014-room1/ from 2pm local
>> Malaysian time.
>> 
>> --
>> Jeremy Malcolm PhD LLB (Hons) B Com
>> Internet lawyer, ICT policy advocate, geek
>> host -t NAPTR 5.9.8.5.2.8.2.2.1.0.6.e164.org <http://e164.org>|awk -F!
>> '{print $3}'
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