[discuss] Place to discuss mass surveillance (was Re: [governance] NTIA statement)

Sun Mar 16 20:45:18 UTC 2014

Hi Seun,

I agree with you: The Internet has an impact in every aspect of our life
today
But the IANA function subject to NTIA announcement  is a highly
technical function and is critical for the Internet security, stability and
resiliency. For me the IETF is the most suitable multi-stakeholder entity to
handle the role USG/NTIA has been playing previously. Let’s see how? The
IETF has been excising multi-stakeholdrism since many years and is open to
everyone (mostly technical people) participation and inputs. The wheel is
already invented, Let’s just use it and improve it if necessary. Let’s see
how we can re-structure the IETF to make it more inclusive and
global
Because the security issue of a protocol or standard can have an
impact on an activist’s life elsewhere. 

One again, like it or not, the Internet governance is mainly technical
We
can develop policies or laws but if there is no collaboration between
policies makers or law makers, there will no way to enforce it. Everyone has
a role to play in the Netgov but someone has to lead it and another one has
to protect the rule of law on the cyberspace. Since WSIS, IGF, 1NET,
NetMundial and beyond, we are seeking for solutions to those problems. If
I’m wrong, feel free to correct me.

Regards,

Victor.

De : Seun Ojedeji [mailto:seun.ojedeji at gmail.com] 
Envoyé : Sunday, March 16, 2014 12:46 PM
À : Victor Ndonnang
Cc : Adiel Akplogan; 1 Net List; Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus -
IGC
Objet : Place to discuss mass surveillance (was Re: [discuss] [governance]
NTIA statement)

Hello Victor,

On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Victor Ndonnang <ndonnang at nvconsulting.biz>
wrote:

+1 Adiel.
Surveillance and intelligence agencies was there before the Internet. Even
if the Internet has a role in the mass surveillance...USG/NTIA intent to
transfer IANA and root zone management related to the global independent
Multistakeholder entity is not a response to the mass surveillance issue.

++1 

May be that Global Multistakeholder entity will be the IETF or I... to help
strengthen security, privacy and trust on the Internet.

Could you perhaps further explain on what you mean here.... as i think IETF
will do its part by attempting to turn discussion from truely
multistakeholder platforms into technical implementation through her
creation of RFCs by interested individuals/team. (this does not necessarily
mean they must, however the hope is that those who are involved in both
platforms will be encouraged to do so). So my point is that everybody has a
role to play and it does not necessarily lie on one side than the other.

The Internet Governance is mainly a technical thing, let's leave the
technical community takes care of it with the full participation and inputs
of others stakeholders.

I beg to disagree on this. Infact if your comment above is the case then
perhaps there won't be need for /1Net in the first place, because all what
has been discussed on this list are not entirely technical. 

Cheers! 

Regards,
Victor.

-----Message d'origine-----
De : discuss-bounces at 1net.org [mailto:discuss-bounces at 1net.org] De la part
de Adiel Akplogan
Envoyé : Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:48 AM
À : Seun Ojedeji
Cc : 1 Net List; Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus - IGC
Objet : Re: [discuss] [governance] NTIA statement

I disagree as well. In this discussion it is very important to dissociate
the USG/NTIA by role in the performance of IANA function by ICANN and the
issue related to mass surveillance. The two are not technically linked and
should be addressed separately.

- a.

On Mar 16, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:

> Well I would not disagree that mass surveillance indeed continues.
>
> Any NSA statement that says otherwise?
>
> Cheers!
> sent from Google nexus 4
> kindly excuse brevity and typos.
>
> On 15 Mar 2014 19:08, "Joly MacFie" <joly at punkcast.com> wrote:
> Disagree,
>
> Different department.
>
> j
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 7:06 AM, Louis Pouzin (well) <pouzin at well.com>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The IANA ballyhoo comes from the same factory as the "internet freedom"
smoke screen launched before WCIT. It's a spin diversion for the show.
>
> Mass surveillance continues. What's new ?
>
> Louis
>
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